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The Office of the Prophet versus Prophesying….

REK

REK

I am writing this blog in answer to a question asked on another posting. I just want to say that I will be answering this as to the knowledge that I already possess and of which I have not done a thorough search through the Hebrew meanings and connotations given in the Old Testament.

The office of the prophet is the same as its been for the last four to five thousand years whereas prophesying as the Holy Spirit falls upon someone happens more frequently since the Holy Spirit has come and indwells those who do not quench the Holy Spirit by their sinning.

Example 1:  King Saul prophesies but is not a prophet.  As you may remember, the Spirit of the Lord leaves Saul later in life leading to Saul’s jealousy and attempts to kill David.

I Samuel 10: 9-13 As Saul turned to leave Samuel, God changed Saul’s heart, and all these signs were fulfilled that day. When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he joined in their prophesying. When all those who had formerly known him saw him prophesying with the prophets, they asked each other, “What is this that has happened to the son of Kish? Is Saul also among the prophets?”  A man who lived there answered, “And who is their father?” So it became a saying: “Is Saul also among the prophets?” After Saul stopped prophesying, he went to the high place.

Before the pouring out of the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of the Lord could come upon someone, but that did not make them a prophet.  It is similar in our modern times.  Anyone who houses the Holy Spirit can prophesy, but that does not make them a prophet.

Prophesying is known to be completed for the edification of the body of Christ.

I Cor 14:3 But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort.

Notice this is for prophesying, not a test of a prophet – that is something else entirely – they should be performing the duties of the office of a prophet which hasn’t changed from the Old to the New Testament.

Romans 12:6 We have different gifts, according to the grace given us. If a man’s gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his faith.

Please note the warning that someone prophesying should do so in proportion to his faith.  How strongly does the Holy Spirit press a message on them?  Is it confusing?  Unsure?  Unclear?  Straight to his/her spirit, clear, and unshakeable?  Say so.  Be honest.  The receiver will be the most appreciative, if you are honest with them.

On the other hand, a prophet is someone God gives a message to convict people of their sins to bring that person back into a correct relationship with God.  Prophets who do not do so are labeled false prophets because they are not serving their main function to the body of Christ.

Prophets are rebuked for not serving their main function:

Micah 3:5-12  This is what the LORD says: 
”As for the prophets 
who lead my people astray,  if one feeds them,  they proclaim ‘peace’;  (prophesying what people want to hear) if he does not,  they prepare to wage war against him.  But as for me, I am filled with power,  with the Spirit of the LORD, 
and with justice and might,  to declare to Jacob his transgression, 
 to Israel his sin. (prophets point out sin and call for repentance) who build Zion with bloodshed,  and Jerusalem with wickedness.  Her leaders judge for a bribe, 
 her priests teach for a price, 
 and her prophets tell fortunes for money.  Yet they lean upon the LORD and say,  “Is not the LORD among us? 
 No disaster will come upon us.” Therefore because of you, 
Zion will be plowed like a field,  Jerusalem will become a heap of rubble, 
the temple hill a mound overgrown with thickets.

Lamentations 2:14
The visions of your prophets were false and worthless; they did not expose your sin to ward off your captivity. The oracles they gave you were false and misleading.  [Note the purpose of visions and messages for/from prophets - to expose sin and lead to repentence.  I repeat, prophets are not Christian psychics]

Ezekiel 13:1-3 The word of the LORD came to me:  “Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who are now prophesying. Say to those who prophesy out of their own imagination: ‘Hear the word of the LORD!  This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Woe to the foolish prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing!

2 Timothy 4:3  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

I repeat: a prophet is someone who speaks to Christians and Jews, calling out their sin, so that they may be reconciled to God and heal their relationship with YWH.

What seems most confusing is when people confuse the abilities of seers with the office of a prophet.  Many seers are prophets.  There are many abilities that seers possess.  Not all seers are equally strong with the same abilities.  This is not to be confused with the office of a prophet.  Some seers are able to discern betwen spirits, discern the truth, discern the heart motivations of someone else, hear the voice of God easily and clearly, empathize/feel what someone else’s spirit is feeling, know the sins or troubles of someone else, and many, many more…..(For more, please see the 3 postings on seers, prophets and false prophets)….  Naturally born seers who have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit can facilitate those hurting in many ways; however, seer-prophets would also use their seer abilities to discern false teachings, false prophets, incorrect intrepretations, and improper motivations.

All regular bloggers on the Supernatural Blog are seers, and they write from their own experiences and thoughts as they process the physical and spiritual world around them.  Oftentimes, it can be very confusing to be a seer – especially if one is raised in a denomination who believes that all seers are in the occult or do not believe that visions and dreams occur anymore.  Unfortunately, in these situations, many seers raised in these denominations eventually seek out others like themselves who do not serve or know God intimately.  I, on the otherhand, kept my dreams and visions to myself growing up due to my denomination, but was unaware that hearing God’s voice so clearly was not normal till I was 24.  Everything else, I just chalked up to me being oddly perceptive about people, sensitive to evil spirits, and simply unfortunate to get physically assaulted by demons more times than I would like.  It wasn’t till I was 26 and crying out to God on why I had to experience all these things and why I couldn’t be oblivious like so many other people seemed to be that God answered.  Finally, peace and understanding filled my spirit, but then more questions formed, and I began fighting God’s answer.  For years, I only did what God forced me to do.  It wasn’t until I fasted for 40 days in the summer of 2008 that my time of running ran out.

I will say this.  God never told me that I was a seer.  I’ve been figuring that out the last six months.  I was one of those people who thought any seer was a witch and into the occult.  Yeah, I was wrong.  God has revealed that, but like I said, I never wanted to encounter anymore of what I had been or seen.  When God started letting me know other people’s sins, I became a hermit because who wants to deal with other people’s baggage. We’ve all got our own, you know?  What God did give me was a scripture verse in a book that I almost never read except for that one morning when I was crying out to God for answers.   Numbers 12:6 he (God) said, “Listen to my words: “When a prophet of the LORD is among you, I reveal myself to him in visions, I speak to him in dreams.”  And all of a sudden my life made sense, but then I had to figure out what being a prophet meant because I grew up in a church who didn’t believe prophets existed anymore.  Then God gave me a message in a dream that he wanted me to give to a pastor for his church.  God made my life hell till I obeyed.  The pastor was receptive and kept me informed on the many people who contacted him on being convicted by the Holy Spirit due to his sermons on the message.  He was the pastor.  It was his flock.  Afterwards, he asked me to consider becoming the pastor after him, but I knew that receiving a message from God that brought conviction and healing within a church body did not mean that I was to become a pastor; I was just to relay the message.   And things grew from there.

I will say this, I do not feel comfortable ever saying anything that I do not feel with every ounce of my being and spirit is from God.  And I truly believe that prophets should be careful that everything originates with God and not with the will of man.  I am very, very cautious that anything gathered from my seer abilities is kept to myself unless God directly moves me to speak concerning the knowledge given.  As a seer, I know that seers can hear from spirits not of God, so I am very, very careful that what I percieve is from God and if it should even be acknowledged to the person in question.  Sometimes, something is revealed to a seer, but it does not mean that person is ready for that word.  God moves in his own time, not our time.  Sometimes, the information is to be kept, and we are to watch and make ourselves available for when God moves that person.

Even with all that God has revealed to me, I rarely, rarely prophesy.  I do not feel comfortable doing so.  And if you are a seer and do not feel comfortable doing so, you shouldn’t be doing it either.  Our spirits are sensitive to the spiritual realm, and if our spirits are resisting, we should listen to that.  For the spirits of Prophets are subject to the Prophets.  Never be forced into something your spirit feels uncomfortable with.  Do not be seduced into divination because people at your church want to use you for their own selfish reasons.  Who wouldn’t want a quick answer as to what to do with their life or if God has a husband/wife for them?  They can fast for guidance for their own life.  God does answer fasts.  If God wants you to give someone a message, then do it, but be sure it originates with God, not man.

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  1. raphnix says
    29 Dec 08 at 4:36am

    A wonderful review to ponder about God and Catholic Religion. Thanks for sharing you beautiful insights about this matter.

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  2. Carol says
    20 Apr 09 at 11:18am

    I think God is teaching me about these things as well. Recommendations for books, etc? that might have been helpful to you?

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  3. Nash says
    19 Jul 09 at 4:00am

    Nice post and blog! Greets.

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  4. MichaellaS says
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    tks for the effort you put in here I appreciate it!

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  8. 19 Aug 10 at 2:02pm

    Because there is so many questions concerning these things, I’m going to set up a talk. I’ll post tid bits when I’m done.

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